Bowe Trade?

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Per @JasonColeYahoo on @560WQAM, #Dolphins are potentially negotiating a deal for #Chiefs stud WR Dwayne Bowe.

Anyone is better than what we have. But see what your sayingTDBowe. Geno is intriguing. I like Tyler Wilson also kid has talent. Barkley is the guy that worries me.

A recent USA Today column proposes five trades that should happen before the deadline including players like Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe, Browns WR Josh Cribbs and Indianapolis pass rusher Dwight Freeney.

It wasn't too long ago that Dwayne Bowe to the Miami Dolphins was a trade rumor swirling unfounded in the NFL winds. The media picked up on it then quickly dismissed it. Yet as the trade deadline approaches on the Tuesday after Week 8, Bowe is likely to be a name thrown around here and there -- even if there's no merit to a deal.

Whether or not Scott Pioli will move his best wide receiver is debatable, but Nate Davis of USA Today says there's one deal he'd like to see happen: Bowe to the Cincinnati Bengals.

In a recent column concerning the five NFL trades he'd like to see, he proposes the Bowe trade among many others that include Josh Cribbs and Dwight Freeney. Davis writes:

He never did get the long-term deal he wanted and was forced to settle for the $9.5 million franchise tag in a city he apparently wants to leave. But the Bengals have the cap room to pay a player like Bowe long-term and, more important, they could clearly use a bona fide wingman to complement A.J. Green.

Bowe isn't a transcendent talent, but his size and ability to move the chains would perfectly mesh with the field-stretching Green, who was essentially erased last week by the

Pittsburgh Steelers, who didn't seem to fear Andy Dalton's other options.

Meanwhile, Kansas CIty Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, who already has a Bowe clone in Jonathan Baldwin, could get a nice parting gift for the free-agent-to-be ... assuming Pioli's still around to shape the roster in 2013.

While the Bengals could use another receiver like Bowe, the reality is that nearly every team needs a top receiver to add to their passing game. The idea that Baldwin and Bowe are interchangeable is to oversimplify the Chiefs offense and to completely miss the strengths of both receivers. Even if they were a "clone", which they are not, Baldwin has hardly shown the ability to take over as the team's top receiver.

The thought makes for an interesting debate, but it's not going to happen.

Should Chiefs trade Dwayne Bowe?
October, 27, 2012

Dwayne Bowe has caught 34 passes for 427 yards and three touchdowns for the Chiefs this season.

If the Kansas City Chiefs are going to trade Dwayne Bowe, it will happen in the next four days.

The NFL trade deadline is Tuesday. We don't usually see a lot of blockbuster deals (although the Raiders did land quarterback Carson Palmer at the deadline a year ago), but Bowe is one of the more intriguing players to keep an eye on as the deadline approaches.

There has been speculation he could be the biggest name sent packing this year, and there was a recent report that Bowe desperately wants out of Kansas City. He is a free agent after the season, so, at the very least, Bowe might be preparing to play his final 10 games with the Chiefs.

Let's look at some reasons swapping Bowe before Tuesday’s deadline could behoove the Chiefs:

Contract: We’ve already broached the main reason trading Bowe might make a lot of sense. He probably won’t be a Chief next season. Bowe is 28 and in his prime. He is a legitimate No.1 receiver who has made plays on an offense known for running the ball and for poor quarterback play. He will be popular on the open market. The Chiefs might as well get something for Bowe when they can.

Dwayne Bowe
#82 WR
Kansas City Chiefs

2012 STATS

Rec34
Yds427
TD3
Avg12.6
Long33
YAC77

Unless both the Chiefs and Bowe have a major change of heart, there isn’t much of a chance Bowe will be back in Kansas City in 2013. He held out until after training camp this year after he was franchised at more than $9 million this season. There is little chance the Chiefs (who might need to franchise left tackle Branden Albert) will put the franchise tag on Bowe again at increased rate. The Chiefs have yet to show a strong interest in finalizing a long-term deal for Bowe, so what's to say they’d do it now? And if you believe the noise, Bowe probably is not jumping to sign with the Chiefs again.

Better compensation: If Bowe leaves as a free agent, the best the Chiefs will do is a compensatory draft pick in 2014. The highest it would be is No. 97, at the end of the third round. By trading Bowe, the Chiefs could get two picks. At least one would be higher than at the end of the third round, and the picks probably would be in next year’s draft. I think the Chiefs could get a second-round pick with perhaps a condition for another pick by trading Bowe now. Miami, St. Louis and the Jets, among other teams, could be interested in Bowe. Perhaps the Chiefs can drum up a bidding war to increase compensation.

Added ammunition: There is no doubt the Chiefs will be looking for a quarterback in the first round of the draft. We know how the quarterback market works in the draft. It is reasonable to think USC’s Matt Barkley and West Virginia’s Geno Smith could be the first two picks of the draft in April. If the Chiefs fall in love with one of these players -- and don’t already have one of the first two picks -- they would have to trade up. Getting picks for Bowe would add to the Chiefs’ trade arsenal in April. Remember, it took a slew of picks for the Redskins to move from No. 6 to No. 2 in a trade with the Rams this year to take Robert Griffin III. Stockpiling picks might be beneficial to Kansas City.

Bowe is not helping Chiefs now: Many people think the Chiefs would be conceding the season by trading Bowe. Look, this season is already lost. There have been major injuries, failures on both sides of the ball and a quarterback change. The Chiefs are 1-5 and are probably not going anywhere in 2012. Trading Bowe wouldn’t be a sign of conceding but a sign of interest in long-term recovery.

Bowe has not made the Chiefs a better team this year even though he has played well. Now that Brady Quinn is taking over at quarterback, having Bowe around would make life easier for the Chiefs on offense. But it isn’t as if Bowe is a magical savior for this disastrous season.

He’s replaceable: One of the reasons the Chiefs drafted Jon Baldwin in the first round in 2011 was insurance in case Bowe, who has 34 catches for 427 yards and three touchdowns this season, were to leave in free agency. Baldwin has potential, but he still needs to develop. By trading Bowe, the Chiefs could make a commitment to Baldwin to prepare him for the future. Also, the Chiefs are always good at managing the salary cap. They can always add a starting receiver in free agency. Bowe is not untouchable or impossible to replace.

Although trading Bowe might make sense, it might be an upset to see a deal actually happen. NFL trades aren’t that easy to make. But it might be worth the Chiefs’ time to consider one in the coming days.

Dwayne Bowe trade not expected to go down
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By Joel Thorman on Oct 30, 4:38p

It wouldn't make sense to trade for him without a new contract.

If a Dwayne Bowe trade did happen, it'd be a big surprise.

ESPN's John Clayton said on NFL Live this afternoon that it's unlikely Bowe will be traded, there's "virtually no chance".

I agree with this. You'd think there'd be a legitimate trade rumor by now if it were really going to go down.

It all comes down to the contract. Any team that wants Bowe would be committing to paying him the rest of this year's salary -- the nearly $10 million franchise tag number -- as well as a minimum of another franchise tag in 2013. So that's over $15 million you'd have to commit to him just to keep him on through 2013.

If Bowe weren't under the franchise tag and eligible to sign a longterm deal as part of the deal, I could see something getting done. Sort of like those sign-and-trades that happen in the NBA.

But without a guarantee you can hang onto him for more than a season, it's hard to justify giving anything up for him.

I didn't know no teams could negotiate a new deal for Bowe right now under the tag. If no one can sign him long term then he's not getting traded.

Six thoughts on a possible Dwayne Bowe trade
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By Joel Thorman on Oct 30, 3:55p

The NFL trade deadline has been moved back to Thursday afternoon at 3:00 p.m. (Arrowhead Time) due to Hurricane Sandy. Dwayne Bowe is one of the top names on the trade deadline rumor mill. We don't know whether he'll be traded but we can guess, speculate and all that good stuff.

1. The minimum should be a third round pick

If Bowe left the Chiefs as a free agent after this year, they'd probably get a third round compensatory pick in the 2014 draft, assuming Bowe signs a big contract somewhere else. Because of that a third round pick would have to be the minimum you'd accept for trading Bowe.

2. Better to get a draft pick in 2013 than 2014

A draft pick in 2013 is more valuable than a draft pick in 2014, especially for GM Scott Pioli. He doesn't know if he'll be here in two years, let next year. So if he wants to be the one making the pick on anything received in exchange for Bowe, it'd better be a 2013 draft pick. The way to do that is trading Bowe.

3. Bowe's contract, or lack thereof, makes this really hard

Any team who gives up, say, a second round pick for Bowe has no assurances he will stay with them beyond 2012 because he's a free agent after the season. That lowers Bowe's value. And if you lower Bowe's value, it makes it less likely Bowe gets traded.

4. Who's interested?

Nothing credible. We're getting a lot of reporters casually linking teams and players (like Seattle) or we can speculate on our own that other teams (like Miami) could/should be interested. But that's about it.

Who couldn't use a receiver like Bowe?

5. Should he get traded?

GM Scott Pioli and Bowe's camp are the ones who should know this. As usual, the negotiations (or lack thereof) have been fairly quiet. It's been reported that Bowe wants out of Kansas City but to be fair he hasn't said anything like that and there aren't any on-the-record quotes like that.

But if Pioli thinks he can re-sign Bowe after the season, then he shouldn't consider trading him. If not, it's best to deal him now...assuming you think you can get more than a third round pick for him.

6. Will he get traded?

I'm saying no. The NFL trade deadline isn't very exciting. Deals don't get done often. There'd have to be an injury for a team to be spurred to make a big decision. I don't see it happening.