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Joe Blow--- LT--Alcorn St. A bit of a reach here as he was projected as a late 6th rnd pick but he does fit the system so another great pick by Scott Pioli

and what bandwagon have I jumped on or off moron? you just mad because I knew this team would suck while you thought 12-4. Dont be mad we were both wrong even I gave them too much credit at 7-9. Injuries are no excuse. GB put like 13 on IR last year. If we had any depth at all maybe we could at least compete. not like it's just 2 games either, they were exposed last year against oak and balt.

In fairness, I feel like you didn't know Gaither wouldn't be healthy. I don't think you knew Baldwin was going to get hurt in TC, along with Moeaki. And I don't think you knew Berry and Charles would get season ending injuries to start the season. The Chiefs are fighting for the playoffs if they have all those players. Even if they start out the season slow because of the lack of work in training camp.

even the Chiefs didnt think Gaither would be ready right away. but fact is if they had the depth all you guys have claimed tey have theyd at least compete. I was wrong about the Breaston signing too. I had no idea he was washed up. But I did know Jackson was a piece of shit. cassel is a piece of shit. gregg is shit. both lines are shit like I said.

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In fairness, I feel like you didn't know Gaither wouldn't be healthy. I don't think you knew Baldwin was going to get hurt in TC, along with Moeaki. And I don't think you knew Berry and Charles would get season ending injuries to start the season. The Chiefs are fighting for the playoffs if they have all those players. Even if they start out the season slow because of the lack of work in training camp.

damn right he didn't know, all he knows is squeak, squeak! Yet he thinks hes got Pioli pegged!

I know everything I have said about this team has come to be except they are actually worse than I thought. So that means everything you guys have said so far has yet to be shown. that is why it is funny that the guys that have gotten everything wrong so far still go on and on about how much they know and how little the guy knows that has been right. You guys sound like little Piolis... you think you know everything even when you are proven wrong.

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Chiefs09 wrote:

and if I'm a moron yet I've been right about this team a lot more than you what does that make you?

your not shit, you have no clue about how to build a team. your just some punk who runs around pulling his pecker and jumping from band wagon to band wagon every year. I have been around alot longer than you and I know damn good and well that is happening right now is a result of not having an off season program and injuries mounting as fast as you can count them. I didn't take very seriously this offseason the implication of losing Weis, but it may be the most important loss yet. I am completely right about the talent that is on this team, and time will tell it. At least i have played the game, I have played 2 years Semi Pro with guys who were actually draft picks to respective teams. (Pittsburg, Baltimore, Skins). I'm going to open tryouts at my school in the spring where i think I will make the team at 31.What the fuck do you have? Other than you gay boyfriends cock up your ass or down your throat!

You being minor league means you do know your minor league talent. so that explains you knowing minor league talent. Pioli is def bringing in some of the best minor league talent he can. and at 31 you havent been around even close to as long as I have. again blowing shit out of your mouth without knowing facts. minor league player... minor league knowledge.

Chiefs09 wrote:

and if I'm a moron yet I've been right about this team a lot more than you what does that make you?

You're definitely a moron. No way around it.

BigRatt wrote:

Chiefs09 wrote:

and if I'm a moron yet I've been right about this team a lot more than you what does that make you?

your not shit, you have no clue about how to build a team. your just some punk who runs around pulling his pecker and jumping from band wagon to band wagon every year. I have been around alot longer than you and I know damn good and well that is happening right now is a result of not having an off season program and injuries mounting as fast as you can count them. I didn't take very seriously this offseason the implication of losing Weis, but it may be the most important loss yet. I am completely right about the talent that is on this team, and time will tell it. At least i have played the game, I have played 2 years Semi Pro with guys who were actually draft picks to respective teams. (Pittsburg, Baltimore, Skins). I'm going to open tryouts at my school in the spring where i think I will make the team at 31.What the fuck do you have? Other than you gay boyfriends cock up your ass or down your throat!

You should have put an 'lol' in front of that statement. That's how he decides who wins an argument! For a man well over 31, he sure does type like a tween-age girl doesn't he?

Chiefs09 wrote:

I know everything I have said about this team has come to be except they are actually worse than I thought. So that means everything you guys have said so far has yet to be shown. that is why it is funny that the guys that have gotten everything wrong so far still go on and on about how much they know and how little the guy knows that has been right. You guys sound like little Piolis... you think you know everything even when you are proven wrong.

What the hell have you ever proven? You knew the Chiefs were gonna suck. So what? You have no clue why, or how to fix them.

Chiefs09 wrote:

BigRatt wrote:

Chiefs09 wrote:

and if I'm a moron yet I've been right about this team a lot more than you what does that make you?

your not shit, you have no clue about how to build a team. your just some punk who runs around pulling his pecker and jumping from band wagon to band wagon every year. I have been around alot longer than you and I know damn good and well that is happening right now is a result of not having an off season program and injuries mounting as fast as you can count them. I didn't take very seriously this offseason the implication of losing Weis, but it may be the most important loss yet. I am completely right about the talent that is on this team, and time will tell it. At least i have played the game, I have played 2 years Semi Pro with guys who were actually draft picks to respective teams. (Pittsburg, Baltimore, Skins). I'm going to open tryouts at my school in the spring where i think I will make the team at 31.What the fuck do you have? Other than you gay boyfriends cock up your ass or down your throat!

You being minor league means you do know your minor league talent. so that explains you knowing minor league talent. Pioli is def bringing in some of the best minor league talent he can. and at 31 you havent been around even close to as long as I have. again blowing shit out of your mouth without knowing facts. minor league player... minor league knowledge.

Sounding pretty tough for a keyboard!

I can be anywhere in the city any1 wants me to be. Just find it funny a guy wants to bash the guy that is right and explain it by bragging he was almost good enough to play real football. playing the game has nothing to do with being able to evaluate talent. Just like coming from NE obviously doesnt mean shit either.

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Chiefs09 wrote:

BigRatt wrote:

Chiefs09 wrote:

and if I'm a moron yet I've been right about this team a lot more than you what does that make you?

your not shit, you have no clue about how to build a team. your just some punk who runs around pulling his pecker and jumping from band wagon to band wagon every year. I have been around alot longer than you and I know damn good and well that is happening right now is a result of not having an off season program and injuries mounting as fast as you can count them. I didn't take very seriously this offseason the implication of losing Weis, but it may be the most important loss yet. I am completely right about the talent that is on this team, and time will tell it. At least i have played the game, I have played 2 years Semi Pro with guys who were actually draft picks to respective teams. (Pittsburg, Baltimore, Skins). I'm going to open tryouts at my school in the spring where i think I will make the team at 31.What the fuck do you have? Other than you gay boyfriends cock up your ass or down your throat!

You being minor league means you do know your minor league talent. so that explains you knowing minor league talent. Pioli is def bringing in some of the best minor league talent he can. and at 31 you havent been around even close to as long as I have. again blowing shit out of your mouth without knowing facts. minor league player... minor league knowledge.

Same principle to the game is applied at all levels. I have actually lined up across from someone that is an NFL player currently. Played against him in High School for 4 years and he was my man as a DT. All I hear u say is squeak, squeak all over the screen! With the way you talk, i dont u have ever played period. If you had played, you would know that eventually some time in imediate future players are gonna get in sink with scheme and gel. Especially ones that have done it in the past. With reps comes synergy!

but if you know a god damn thing about injuries you know Charles injury has nothing to do with amount of touches. and I know enough to know being a player doesnt mean you can evaluate talent for shit. if you were so good at it youd admit that both these lines suck and Cassel is an absolute fucking joke for a QB. Only idiots and people that only look at it through a fans eyes cant see those things.

Chiefs09 wrote:

I can be anywhere in the city any1 wants me to be. Just find it funny a guy wants to bash the guy that is right and explain it by bragging he was almost good enough to play real football. playing the game has nothing to do with being able to evaluate talent. Just like coming from NE obviously doesnt mean shit either.

Playing the game has nothing to do with evaluating talent is that most ignorant thing i have ever heard u say. How the hell can you evaluate anybody if you dont know what the function of thier job is in relation to the that of the next position? Its pretty hard to evaluate someone when u dont have your own experience to draw from. thats why playing experience is so beneficial to people who does this for a living and have seen varietys of scheme. Thats why most of your scouts are former NFL players, most of your GMs have playing experience at least at the college level.

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Chiefs09 wrote:

I know everything I have said about this team has come to be except they are actually worse than I thought. So that means everything you guys have said so far has yet to be shown. that is why it is funny that the guys that have gotten everything wrong so far still go on and on about how much they know and how little the guy knows that has been right. You guys sound like little Piolis... you think you know everything even when you are proven wrong.

What the hell have you ever proven? You knew the Chiefs were gonna suck. So what? You have no clue why, or how to fix them.[/quote

Let him bask in his Glory, hes already stuck his foot in his mouth by saying that there isn't talent on this team thats going to amount to anything.

Running your ignorant mouth again. I have said this team has some fantastic talent at positions. the best RB, the best safety and the best olb. but we have very little at Oline (kind of important in this league) not much at all at Dline (kind of important in this league) and absolutely zero talent at QB ( kind of important in this league) Pioli must have never played this game because he cant evaluate line talent or QB talent for shit. You can bet your ass Pioli isnt in the semipro football hall of fame..

Chiefs09 wrote:

Running your ignorant mouth again. I have said this team has some fantastic talent at positions. the best RB, the best safety and the best olb. but we have very little at Oline (kind of important in this league) not much at all at Dline (kind of important in this league) and absolutely zero talent at QB ( kind of important in this league) Pioli must have never played this game because he cant evaluate line talent or QB talent for shit. You can bet your ass Pioli isnt in the semipro football hall of fame..

Actually Pioli knows a little about O and D line because he was a 3 time division 2 all new england defensive tackle while he was in college. He coached O line for a year and D line for a year. Pioli is in the central connecticut hall of fame to be exact. I just watched Aso pretty much shut down the best DT in the game on Sunday. I guess we should release him, he cant play.

that makes him even dumber then for having such bad lines. jackson was his choice and is a joke. he chose gregg another joke. Albert is okay at LT but could be a probowler at a couple other positions on the line yet he wont move him. I will admit I like Asamoah and Hudson and know they are going to struggle first year. I still think it is obvious you can fix 2 positons on that line by getting one player to play LT. and I'm not talking a player with back problems being the savior. dont see back problems being a good ting for a guy in the trenches. would be nice for gaither to pan out but to bank on it and not address the position is stupid.

Who do u think beat the bushes on LT for the last several years? I talked about Jake Long, Eugene Monroe, R. Okung, moving Albert to LG. I have already been to this topic a long time ago. Pioli knew exactly what he was getting when he drafted Jackson. He knew he wasn't a rusher, and he compared him to Russell Maryland. Who was a top 10 pick and who never did anything real well for the cowboys. But Maryland allowed the cowboys to play defense the way they wanted to play it. I'm ready to get Gaither a look somewhere on this line as soon as hes good to go. He was a stud with the Ravens before the injury. Yes, I do like Gaither, Albert, Aso, Hudson, to say that this O line doesn't have any talent is nonsense

Just seems like Raji should have been the obvious pick. Not that he was MY first choice. I was big on the other bust Curry, but like half the mocks had us taking Raji. He was BPA at position of need at the time

Chiefs09 wrote:

Just seems like Raji should have been the obvious pick. Not that he was MY first choice. I was big on the other bust Curry, but like half the mocks had us taking Raji. He was BPA at position of need at the time

I was big on Curry to. I still am. I think Curry would be a much better fit as a ILB in the 3-4 than a OLB in the 4-3. I liked Monroe and Raji as well. they didn't have a 3-4 DE and Jackson was the best in that draft. hindsight is always 20/20. Jackson showed flashes last year. Although I have seen him playing the doubles well this year at times, I have seen him getting washed off the line at other times. I just dont know about him now, but I'm hoping for the best. I would say, if he can sustain the Line of scrimmage and hold the double, keep the getting washed to a minimum. that he will be kept.

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