Will KC make a trade on draft day?

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From Josh Looney

Here’s a little something to chew on this weekend. Earlier in the week we took a look at the prospects of Kansas City trading out of the fifth overall draft pick this April. Whether or not trading that pick is something that Scott Pioli would like to do is something few know for certain, but recent history shows us that dropping out of the top-five is a rarity.


As was noted in Wanna Trade? there have been a total of 129 trades involving draft picks since 2005. Of those 129 trades, only one has occurred in the top five. That top-five trade came last year and involved a quarterback when the Jets traded up with the Browns to select Mark Sanchez.


But what about the later rounds?


The Chiefs are a team that owns two picks in the second round as well as three picks bunched together in the fifth round. In total, Kansas City boasts eight picks in the first five rounds, which presents plenty of opportunity to wheel and deal.


Pulling the trigger on a move in the middle rounds is nothing new to the Chiefs second-year general manager. While in New England, Pioli was part of a team that made 23 trades between rounds two and six from 2000-08. Many of those deals are what helped form the modern-day Patriots team as we know it.


When scouring over the list of New England’s draft day trades, one such transaction sticks out as being above ultra-impressive. The deal was both interesting and unique. It also paid out well in the long run. Check out how that Pats came to select Pro Bowl CB Asante Samuel in 2003…


1) The Patriots were holding the 50th overall pick (second round) and struck a deal to trade up with Carolina.

2) New England selected WR Bethel Johnson with Carolina’s 45th overall pick and gave the Panthers their 50th pick and the 120th overall pick (fourth round).

3) Later, Carolina would deal that 120th overall selection to Denver in a trade.

4) Once the fourth round of the draft came up, the Patriots were sitting with the 128th overall choice and dealt that pick to Denver for…you guessed it…that original 120th overall selection.

5) Originally held by New England, and then dealt through two teams before coming full circle back to New England, the Patriots drafted CB Asante Samuel at 120th overall in 2003.


Between the three teams who stepped into that trade, New England’s acquisitions of Samuel and Johnson pulled the trump card on the players drafted by the opposition. The duo of Samuel and Johnson currently own 156 games of NFL experience compared to just 17 games combined between the trio of players drafted by Carolina and Denver (C Bruce Nelson, DT Bryant McNeal and C Ben Claxton).


Since the turn of the century, when New England deals, they typically find talent. DE Ty Warren, DT Vince Wilfork, S Eugene Wilson, DT Dan Klecko, C Dan Koppen, TE Daniel Graham, T Matt Light and T Kenyatta Jones are all notable examples of players acquired by using traded draft picks. Most were players drafted somewhere in the middle rounds.


This is the system in which Pioli has seen implemented throughout his career. For 2010, it’s likely not a question of if the Chiefs are going to trade, but when the Chiefs are going to trade. Hopefully Pioli can mock the success he experienced with traded picks during his tenure with New England, right here in Kansas City.


It’s also notable that both Chiefs QB Matt Cassel and T Ryan O’Callaghan (pictured) were players who the Patriots drafted with dealt picks. In fact, both players came in the same deal.


In 2005 the Patriots dealt Oakland their sixth round pick (175th overall) for the Raiders seventh round pick (230th overall) and fifth round pick in 2006 (136th overall). Cassel was selected with that seventh round choice, while O’Callaghan went with the sixth in 2006. The Raiders, meanwhile, used their sixth round pick to draft DT Antaaj Hawthorn.


Hawthorne never started a NFL game and was out of the league by 2007. Cassel and O’Callaghan have obviously gone on to become regular starters.


Oh, those Raiders and their (insert adjective here) trades…

This is the deepest draft since Dan Marino was drafted.

ccardwell67 wrote:

lightning if you had to pick who would you chosse in the first

At 5 clausen work a trade for cassel back up Berry
Trade down Berry. or d. williams

So here is where all my fellow Clausen supporters went. I look at it like this if not Clausen this year then we ride out a guy who is never going to be better than he is now (Cassel) and we will eventually have to draft another QB in a few years where we will no doubt be better than we are now simply because of our defense getting better and we wont have the chance to draft a QB that high again for a while. Then we still won't have a franchise QB and we go back to the days of signing castoff backoffs. There aren't many Trent Greens out there.

Oops backups not backoffs.

so cal we can always go with barkley in a year or two.

just kidding i would rather have claussen now

Even with Cassel I see us being able to reach 8-8. I don't see us having another top five pick for awhile, which means there is about a 99% shot we wont be able to draft an elite QB like Clausen anytime soon again. But what makes him even more rare, is he already knows our scheme and isn't a major project like drafting QB's usually are. He is as sure of a prospect at QB as we will EVER be able to draft..

The only reason i could see us trading in is bc we cant' fill a void we need without over paying ie.. Berry or Mclain at 5. i'm happy with albert at LT get a RT with our 3rd pick (second pick in the 2nd round) hopefully a wr with the 1st or a safety if we don't get berry