Updated Cap Space

[Editor's note: The current team-by-team cap report as of September 3 appears below. It remains based on the top 51 cap numbers for all players under contract. The calculation converts to entire 53-man roster plus all players on injured reserve and other reserve lists at the launch of the regular season.]

Jaguars: $28.7 million.

Chiefs: $26.6 million.

Eagles: $20.2 million.

Titans: $17.0 million.

Bengals: $15.2 million.

Buccaneers: $14.9 million.

Browns: $13.3 million.

Seahawks: $13.2 million.

Packers: $11.6 million.

Broncos: $11.1 million.

Colts: $10.1 million.

Patriots: $10.0 million.

Cardinals: $10.0 million.

Panthers: $9.2 million.

Vikings: $8.9 million.

Saints: $8.2 million.

Jets: $8.1 million.

Bills: $7.9 million.

Redskins: $7.5 million.

Bears: $6.3 million.

Raiders: $6.0 million.

Cowboys: $5.3 million.

Ravens: $5.3 million.

Steelers: $4.5 million.

Chargers: $4.1 million.

Dolphins: $4.0 million.

Rams: $4.0 million.

Giants: $3.6 million.

49ers: $3.5 million.

Falcons: $3.4 million.

Lions: $2.3 million.

Texans: $2.3 million.

Is it next year where the salary cap floor comes into place?

Yes. Had to figure Clark would use one last year to be cheap. Looks like Carr would have been easy to keep around and still sign everyone else they wanted.

Cant wit til next year when he has to be closer to the ceiling. may read up on the rules for it though and find out what the penalties would be for not being at the floor. If Clark doesnt have to come close to the floor he sure as hell wont.

So if KC had paid Routt and Carr theyd still be 4th best in cap space. Plus freeing up more money next year with Jackson and Cassel. Theyd still be in great financial shape and have by far the best secondary in the league. Another Pioli mistake.

So when the Chiefs go belly up this year there will be proof that the bottom line for ownership of this organization is all about the $$$$$$. Can't say that I'm suprised though... You can't change a leopards spots. Once a penny pinching cheapskate always a cheapskate.
Let's see how well this goes over when Routt is getting a shit load of PI calls or just flat out burned or when Bowe walks next year.

Last year when I was saying Clark was cheap I was stupid and didnt understand they needed to save some money to sign their own players. They let Carr walk and franchised Bowe for one year with the intention of letting him walk after this season. They could have had Carr and Routt and still been in the 4th best shape Cap wise. They could have front loaded Carrs contract this year since they were 20 something mil under anyway and it wouldnt cost them down the road either. Clark Hunt is very much like David Glass in KC. He has no real desire to bring a title here just give the fans enough false hope to think they are trying. I will continue to hope like the rest of the fans but with a clear sense of reality while doing so.

We have four guys we have to resign after this season..Bowe, Dorsey, Hillis, and Albert. After and if we resign all four, we wont have nearly that much. We really need to reconstruct Tyson Jacksons deal to free up more cap. Theres no excuse why we cant resign all four though.

We could have had all 4 of those guys plus Carr easy. and they will be letting Bowe walk. the only way they dont is if Baldwin busts. Cassel will be gone. cap space wasnt an issue with Carr. it was just a cheap owner. if the rules are firm and teams have to be at like 99% of the cap then Carr should have been a nobrainer sign. had Pioli done his job Carr would have been signed for less anyway during last season.

"The new collective bargaining agreement formulated in 2011 had an initial salary cap of $120 million. While the previous CBA had a salary floor, the new CBA initially does not have one until 2013; at that time, each team will be required to spend a minimum of 88.8% of the cap in cash on player compensation in each season.[8] The NFL's cap is a hard cap that the teams have to stay under at all times, and the salary floor is also a hard floor. Penalties for violating or circumventing the cap include fines of up to $5 million, cancellation of contracts and/or loss of draft picks." - Wikipedia

So if we have 120 million in salary cap..at 88% we will have to get below roughly 14 million.

I still think its a smart move to not pay your #2 CB more than your #1. You also have no idea on if they plan to let Bowe walk this year or not. Maybe they want him to prove hes an elite WR this year instead of just paying him like one first. They've made smart moves like you have to unless you want to screw yourself long term. You don't just throw around money just to throw it... we brought in some good free agents this year, and we will again next year. Plus we have a few guys who are going to need a lot of that money to resign this year. I'd rather have not blown it all last year like you want to, to not have room for Albert and Dorsey among others this year.

Carr would have been retained if he would have settled for a reasonable contract. Routt got a nice deal for a #2 CB, and they would have gave Carr a little more than that. Didn't Carr grow up a Dallas fan? Makes sense to me he'd go there and get paid like a #1 CB.

Once Flowers comes back, Routt will be fine. Free agency is just part of the game. Carr knew if he played well his last year here, he would be getting a big fat payday in free agency and he did. I wish we could have kept him, but realistically, it was probably between him or Bowe. If Bowe has a big year again, I think theres no doubt they give him his money.

Bowe > Carr
LT > #2 CB
DE > #2 CB

Look at all the great defenses in years past, how many of them had a great #2 CB? or a #2 CB getting paid more than the #1 for that matter?

Just because the Chiefs are smart enough to have one of the most talented rosters in the NFL while spending the least doesn't mean they need to blow it all in one year. They took a few steps in that direction last year bringing in guys. They will do the same next year while retaining some of our young key guys.

They have to be within the cap floor which I believe is less than $10million from the cap next year. So we will be in good shape. Hell maybe even an elite player will want to come to KC next year after we win a playoff game this year and we get hype for being so young too.

We lose one player in free agency and have a total meltdown over it. Doesnt make sense.

I hated losing him too, but its part of business. Players come and go. We've replaced him with a cheaper guy who's not bad, which will allow us to resign alot of key guys we'll need to resign after this year.

If I remember right, about 4 or 5 years ago the Raiders went out and spent a shit ton of their available cap, and for a season or two they were in cap hell. Even now they only have 6 mil in cap, and how many players do they have that are worth a damn? Less than us..

Touchdown Bowe wrote:

We lose one player in free agency and have a total meltdown over it. Doesnt make sense.

I hated losing him too, but its part of business. Players come and go. We've replaced him with a cheaper guy who's not bad, which will allow us to resign alot of key guys we'll need to resign after this year.

If I remember right, about 4 or 5 years ago the Raiders went out and spent a shit ton of their available cap, and for a season or two they were in cap hell. Even now they only have 6 mil in cap, and how many players do they have that are worth a damn? Less than us..

Its the same song and dance every year. They were saving the money to resign players the already have on their roster.Then a big piece leaves cuz we get a guy a couple million cheaper who isnt half the talent. When Bowe walks it'll be the same thing. and you guys will keep buying it. Make no mistake if Bowe doesnt walk it will be because Baldwin busts and Pioli actually has to pay Bowe. Again if Pioli did his job we would have gotten Carr much cheaper had we done it in season last year.

Chiefs09 wrote:

Touchdown Bowe wrote:

We lose one player in free agency and have a total meltdown over it. Doesnt make sense.

I hated losing him too, but its part of business. Players come and go. We've replaced him with a cheaper guy who's not bad, which will allow us to resign alot of key guys we'll need to resign after this year.

If I remember right, about 4 or 5 years ago the Raiders went out and spent a shit ton of their available cap, and for a season or two they were in cap hell. Even now they only have 6 mil in cap, and how many players do they have that are worth a damn? Less than us..

Its the same song and dance every year. They were saving the money to resign players the already have on their roster.Then a big piece leaves cuz we get a guy a couple million cheaper who isnt half the talent. When Bowe walks it'll be the same thing. and you guys will keep buying it. Make no mistake if Bowe doesnt walk it will be because Baldwin busts and Pioli actually has to pay Bowe. Again if Pioli did his job we would have gotten Carr much cheaper had we done it in season last year.

When was the last time we let one of our better players walk away in free agency? The last good player we dumped off was Jared Allen in like 2008..and that was because he didnt want to be here with our management anymore. Even then we got Branden Albert and Jamaal Charles in return. I dont even remember the last time we let one of our better players just walk away in free agency for nothing. Can you?

We arent the KC Royals..We dont just develop talent and trade it away for crap in return.

Brandon Carr is the first guy we let walk away in forever and your acting like were having a fire sale here.

We didn't let Allen walk either, that was a trade. Pioli has done better than any GM when it comes to not letting players walk. Brandon Carr is the only one. It doesn't matter how much space we have, only a moron pays a #2 more than the #1. How many teams in the NFL have a CB tandom like that?

Recent teams who make stupid free agent signings like you want to, Jets and Redskins. Yeah, we are in better shape than both.

Having the best CB pair in the NFL in an era where there are 3 5,000 yard passers a year is stupid? You are gonna have to get out of the past eventually this is a different NFL. and again if Pioli had done his job during last season it never would have come to 10 million per year. what is so hard for you to understand about that Rust? Carr never should have hit free agency in the first place is the point. Piolis dumb ass just didnt do his job when he should have.

Lol you're the idiot here. There is no reason whatsoever that Pioli would have passed on paying Carr similar to what he paid Routt. He made deals with DJ, Flowers, and Charles in season. He broke the bank on Hali. This one is on Carr, not Pioli.

no you are the idiot. every single year you act like your word is the gospel. and really your word is only agreeing with every single thing Pioli does. you are incapable of thinking for yourself. But at the end of every season I am right on Pioli and Hunt. they have no desire to bring a championship to KC. they just want to keep brainless fans like yourself to think they are. meanwhile they keep banking. in a game where 5000 yards passing is about to become the norm what Dallas gave Carr will wind up being a bargain. they should have given Carr 8.5-9 in season last year. But keep telling yourself Routt is better even though the numbers arent even close. Routts best years arent close to Carrs worst.

You arent even capable uf understanding that KC was in a perfect spot to go ahead and pay Carr what he wound up getting in D without having any risk to future signings. Being 26 mil under the cap this year it would have been very easy to frontload the contract without hurting yourself down the road. but Hunt wanted to take the cheap way out. make no mistake this wasnt a football decision. If it was a football decision Pioli should be fired for being an idiot. this was about Clark closing the checkbook after Pioli failed to get a deal that would have made both sides happy last year.

It doesn't matter what the cap situation is, you don't make stupid signings. You don't pay your #2 more than your #1, thats just the common sense of it. Before you know it, Flowers is pissed and he wants a new deal. Other players hold out because they want paid more than they deserve. I'd rather lose one now than lose a bunch down the road. We are so far under that cap because we are one of the youngest teams in the NFL. A lot of our guys haven't been paid yet. If we blow all the money like you want, then its all tied up and even more than Carr just walk.

Carr would have been retained if he wanted to be here. We gave our #1 CB a good deal. We paid an elite pass rusher like an elite pass rusher.

Plleaaassseeee give me one GM who as retained every good player ever? You would have a point if we had lost Tamba Hali for not wanting to pay him, but because its a premier position its just something you have to do. Only a moron with no clue about how anything works wants to pay a #2 elite money. We are not going to be a bad team because we lost Carr, and we weren't going to win a playoff game because of Brandon Carr.

When people think of Kansas City General Manager Scott Pioli, the first thing that comes to mind is something that does not endear him to the Chiefs’ faithful: New England. When one thinks about New England, it is only natural to then conjure an image of Bill Belichick in all his hoody’s glory standing on the sidelines. You see, the fact that Scott Pioli makes us think of Belichick is only natural because he has yet to do a single thing of note outside of his shadow. To set the stage, let’s revisit how we got here:

Pioli was given his “shot” in the NFL by none other than Bill Belichick in 1992 when he was hired as a Personnel Assistant for the Cleveland Browns. Pioli then followed Belichick around to the Jets and Patriots, all the while ascending under his legacy. It’s no secret that in New England Belichick had the final say on all personnel moves and that he shared the GM duties with Pioli. So it was only natural for Pioli to leave the Pats after the 2008 season and three Super Bowl trophies under his belt to go out and try to blaze his own path without the cloud that is Bill Belichick hanging over him.

Enter the Kansas City Chiefs, who after coming off a 4-12 record, and disastrous run under Herm Edwards, the team was sinking like the Titanic. The Chiefs had decided it was time to end the King Carl Peterson era and were looking to start anew. Pioli seemed like a good fit at the time. He had enjoyed a monumental run of excellence in New England and wanted his front office peers to see him for what he was: a brilliant personnel man and someone who had been stifled to deferring praise and credit to the almighty Bill Belichick.

Clark Hunt was also a man looking for his own identity after his father, Lamar Hunt, founder of the Chiefs, passed away in 2006. Lamar Hunt was a pioneer in the professional football landscape and while his son Clark was no slouch by any stretch, he was looking to place his own stamp on the franchise.

The offseason in 2008 for Kansas City was going to be the rebirth. Clark Hunt knew the franchises he wanted to emulate and bring the Chiefs back to prominence again. Pittsburgh and New England were the model franchises that had both the ideals and values that the Chiefs shared. The only difference is those franchises experienced vastly different on-field results.

Carl Peterson was said to have “resigned” effective after the 2008 season but those in the know had more than just suspicions that that he was going to be gone either way. After a very secretive search, the Chiefs announced New England’s Scott Pioli as the new General Manager. Mostly the move was met with excitement and the kind of rejuvenation that Kansas City was in desperate need of. For Scott Pioli, he was about to get the full reigns as he had always wanted.

Pioli’s first order of business was firing Herm Edwards all of ten days after he was hired. I’m actually surprised it took him that long. Chiefs' fans everywhere felt a sense of triumph and joy that we wouldn’t have to listen to that blow-hard anymore, that is, until ESPN handed him a high-paying gig to continue his circus act on national television. It’s still a victory for Chiefs' fans but a painful reminder every time I flip to ESPN and have to listen to the world’s most annoying cheerleader. [Side note: do you have to fail miserably at your career in professional sports just to be considered as on-air talent by ESPN? I’m looking at you, Matt Millen.]

After the purging of Herm Edwards, Pioli moved swiftly and made the two-year wunderkind Todd Haley the new coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. Most people were only vaguely familiar with Haley up to that point and for good reason. He had a grand total of two years of coordinator experience at the professional level. Haley was the offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals in 2007 and 2008 and while the team enjoyed a wildly successful ride with a potent offense, it did so under the tutelage of future Hall of Famers Kurt Warner and Larry Fitzgerald, and another halfway decent player in Anquan Boldin. Personally I know at least a dozen dudes who watch football every Sunday that could have called plays and had as much success with those guys out there. Here’s one other thing people may have known about Haley up to that point: he had feuded with players at just about every single stop he had in his coaching career including Keyshawn Johnson, Terrell Owens, Anquan Boldin, and Kurt Warner. The first two guys, I get it. But he should’ve been kissing the feet of Warner and Boldin instead of trying to pull some pee-wee motivational game on them.

Besides bringing over the same regurgitated message from New England in finding “the right 53” and doing things “the right way”, Pioli also brought over Matt Cassel. It was his first big player personnel move and after betting a 2nd round pick on him, Pioli essentially hitched his wagon to yet another Patriot. Cassel was fresh off a solid season filling in for the injured Tom Brady and leading the Pats to a 10-win season. For all intents and purposes, he was a much better option at the time than the incumbent, Tyler Thigpen.

Pioli was beginning to assemble the team that he envisioned when he took the job. His next order of business was to prepare for the upcoming draft. He would leave his staple right away on the franchise with a new QB and franchise player to be derived from the #3 overall pick. Pioli used that opportunity to reach for a run-stopping defensive tackle in Tyson Jackson from LSU. This was a guy who was initially projected to be a late first round pick, and also the former teammate of a prior year’s bust pick in Glenn Dorsey. Who did he pass up on for the guy who still has yet to become an average player? Only BJ Raji, Brian Orakpo, Brian Cushing, and Clay Matthews, to name a few. Picture the Chiefs defense right now without Jackson and with any of those four. Hard to believe, but it’s an even scarier defense.

The other initial mark Pioli left on Kansas City was in trading All-Pro, All-World, Perhaps the Greatest TE to Ever Play the Game-Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2nd round pick in the 2010 draft. For the record, that was a pick the Chiefs parlayed into currently part-time nickle-back and special-teamer Javier Arenas. In the three seasons since he was traded, the guy who was supposedly on the downside of his career has averaged 78 catches for 800 yards and 6.33 TDs. As for the Chiefs? They’ve started TE’s named Leonard Pope, Jake O’Connell, Anthony Becht, and Sean Ryan.

After another 4-12 season in 2009 and those unpopular personnel moves, Pioli didn’t exactly leave the best first impression. To be fair, it wasn’t entirely a result of his moves that left the Chiefs last in the division. The man he put in charge of the team, Todd Haley, was rubbing people the wrong way from the minute he set foot inside the building. After the first three preseason games of the 2009 season, Haley decided to effectively remove play calling duties from offensive coordinator Chan Gailey. Haley decided his all-knowing brilliant offensive mind would be responsible for directing the Chiefs offense.

It was a dismal year all-around and forced Pioli to dig all of two-cards into his rolodex to find his new coordinators as he continued assembling Patriots West. In came Charlie Weiss and Romeo Crennel, two guys who had excellent experience and accomplishments at the coordinator level in New England but failed miserably as head coaches elsewhere.

Pioli also finally managed to get a halfway decent batch of draft picks in the door but it’s too early to tell of any long-term success prospects due to injuries to Eric Berry and Tony Moeaki. My major issue with that draft class was using their 2nd round pick of Dexter “The Smurf” McCluster ahead of guys like Rob Gronkowski, Sean Lee, Terrance Cody, and Brandon Spikes, among others. For some reason, Kansas City fell in love with this guy and reached for him, something that has become a staple of Pioli drafts. While Berry and Moeaki look very promising (as does guard Jon Asamoah), this could have been a stellar draft if not for the McCluster gaff.

The bright, young talent led to a resurgence of Chiefs football but the honeymoon of 2010 lasted all of one season. The Chiefs experienced significant gains on both sides of the ball, yet additional instability would ensue. Even though they had the weakest schedule in the league by far, they were still winning games and took home the AFC West title. I had no grand delusions as a fan that the Chiefs were legit, but it sure was nice to see W’s on the scoreboard during the year. Once KC was put in their proper place in the pecking order of the NFL’s good teams by the Ravens, we saw them for who they were. More importantly, however, we saw the chemistry at the upper levels disintegrating before our eyes.

Haley had already managed to ruffle feathers with Pioli and he had now forced Weiss to sprint back to the college ranks, as far away as he could get from Haley. While the team made strides, perhaps the biggest leaps were by Romeo Crennel’s defense as he quietly and humbly went about his job.

The Chiefs then decided to bring on QB guru Jim Zorn in the hopes of continuing the progression of Matt Cassel, who took a reasonable step forward in his improvement. Yet Kansas City still decided to name 100 year-old Bill Muir their offensive coordinator. Haley proceeded with his immature antics of putting the best players on the team (Dwayne Bowe, Derrick Johnson) in his doghouse as a way of inspiring them to be all they could be. I hate to be the one to break it to Todd but they were already pretty damn good before he alienated them.

In 2011, KC suffered brutal injuries throughout the early part of the year losing centerpieces like Jamaal Charles, Eric Berry, Tony Moeaki, and even new role player acquisitions like Brandon Siler. They then lost Matt Cassel halfway through the season and that’s where the train fell off the tracks. While I don’t believe Chiefs fans hoped for miracles with second and third stringers at key positions, we had at least hoped to be competitive. The Chiefs lost their first three games in an embarrassing fashion, then proceeded to win three straight, only to follow that up by losing the next four. The Chiefs were exposed for being sub-NFL caliber at a number of positions that rest squarely on the shoulders of Scott Pioli. Jackie Battle, Tyler Palko, Anthony Becht, Barry Richardson, and Sabby Piscatelli…these are not names that you should see in an NFL game unless it’s on the kickoff coverage team.

Pioli finally made a move to remove Haley after completely losing the Chiefs against the Jets two games later. The man he handpicked to build his team was now out of work. I firmly believe that if you inherit a coach, you have some leeway, but when you handpick a guy yourself and then he fails miserably, it’s on you. Pioli decided to move forward with the coach who stepped in for Haley on an interim basis, Romeo Crennel. While I actually like Crennel and think he might be a good fit for this team, I am also concerned that the team is ecstatic about the move solely because he is the anti-Haley. He’s a “players’ coach” (which is always scary to hear,) quiet, humble, old, defensive minded, and did not play on the golf team in college. Again, he is everything Todd Haley is not.

So now here we are in the thick of the NFL offseason and the Chiefs have put together an impressive run during free agency by shoring up some holes that needed to be filled (Eric Winston at RT, Kevin Boss at backup TE, Peyton Hillis at backup RB, and Stanford Routt at CB to fill in for the departed Brandon Carr). They whiffed on Peyton Manning after he wanted no part of visiting them so they are stuck, for better or worse, with Cassel. If Pioli thinks he’s such a bad option then he shouldn’t have hitched his wagon to him.

Pioli now has to put together a solid draft especially since he no longer has to draft based on glaring needs on the team. Don’t get me wrong, they still have needs, but they don’t necessarily have a position with a gaping hole, that is a huge liability if it isn’t filled. That means even more pressure on Pioli to pick the best available player who can make an impact somewhere on that team as a rookie. Preferably he’d get two of those guys. But if he strikes out, whether as a result of another draft bust or because Matt Cassel can’t get it done, he should find himself looking to crawl back into Belichick’s shadow because thus far he has proved he can’t thrive outside of it.

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Tim Healy
4 months ago
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What doe you see for Cassel this year? B

Matthew McGoldrick
4 months ago
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He'll have all his weapons back and at his disposal PLUS a much improve O-line after bringing in Eric Winston. If he can't succeed now, he never will. He's basically Mark Sanchez only tougher. You know what you're getting.

Tim Healy
4 months ago
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I am wondering "as a has been-never was football player at the FU," what was your career highlight?

Matthew McGoldrick
4 months ago
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Ha! Great question but it's an easy answer: hands down the highlight was getting my name announced by Yanks' legendary announcer Bob Shephard while playing football vs. St. John's (he used to announce St. John's football games). Even though the catch was called back for a holding penalty...it's still the sad but true highlight of my career!

ArrowFan Tomahawk Chop
4 months ago
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I agree that the Jackson pick was a bone head move, and bringing in Cassel has been lukewarm and Haley well all I can say is there must not have been many options at the time. However Pioli has transformed our team. The problem with our depth last year was more bad luck. Our team lacked depth due to us lacking talent and in a young state of rebuilding we could not afford the level of injuries we had. As Pioli builds the team the lack of depth will no longer be as much as an issue. I say name one team that looses their starting RB, TE, SS, and QB for a season and doesn't miss a beat? Just 1/2 a year ago I was so down on Pioli but now I'm turning. To me like you said it all depends on this years draft. If he pulls some bonehead moves he will go right back to the potty with me.

Matthew McGoldrick
4 months ago
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I agree that a reasonable fan could not have expected them to sustain those injuries without missing a beat. However, the lack of depth truly was exposed. The Texans didn't have Foster for a few games and Tate was a very solid backup. While I like Battle's effort, he was not in the same class nor was McCluster. The Texans also lost TWO Qbs which would be the doom for most teams yet their 3rd stringer played better than KC's backup. All of those signings of guys off the street like Colbert and "Shabby" Piscatelli and some others was just a waste of personnel moves that moved the Chiefs in the wrong direction.
Here's hoping we get a solid draft and get some immediate contributors regardless of position and I might change my tune a bit!

rick torrey
4 months ago
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As a life-long Chiefs fan (I was at the Christmas Day longest ever game)I think that this will be the most important draft in the history of the Chiefs. Pioli cannot afford to whiff on this one. If he reaches for some pie-in-the-sky second-tier guy like Poe, I will agree with you. He will set the team back two years or more. Right now with just a few smart moves, this team is in for a deep run.

Matthew McGoldrick
4 months ago
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I agree completely Rick...this could make set KC up for the next decade or have us toiling in mediocrity even longer!
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