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RustShack Giver of Life
Posts : 4463 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 35 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Case for a first round QB Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:31 pm | |
| Here are the results for the starting QBs in the Super Bowl since 1994 to Present (ran out of room on my paper). Winner listed first, loser second. *Bold indicates drafted 1st overall.
Year: Name (round) 1994: Aikman (1) / Kelly (1) 1995: Young (1) / Humphries (6) 1996: Aikman (1) / O'Donnell (3) 1997: Favre (2) / Bledsoe (1) 1998: Elway (1) / Favre (2) 1999: Elway (1) / Chandler (3) 2000: Warner (Un) / McNair (1) 2001: Dilfer (1) / Collins (1) 2002: Brady (6) / Warner (Un) 2003: Johnson (3) / Gannon (4) 2004: Brady (6) / Delhomme (Un) 2005: Brady (6) / McNabb (1) 2006: Ben R. (1) / Hasselbeck (6) 2007: P. Manning (1) / Grossman (1) 2008: E. Manning (1) / Brady (6) 2009: Ben R. (1) / Warner (Un) 2010: Brees (2) / P. Manning (1)
*All percentages are rounded up.
-9 times out of these 17 years a 1st overall drafted QB played in the Super Bowl (6 different players). (53% / 35%).
-9 out of 34 starting QBs were drafted 1st overall (6 different players). (27% / 25%)
-17 out of the 34 starting QBs were drafted in the 1st round (recounting returning QBs) (50%).
-A first round QB won the Super Bowl 10 out of 17 times (59%).
-There have been 3 QBs drafted in the 2nd round (9%), 3 from the 3rd round (9%), 1 from the 4th round (3%), zero from the 5th round, 6 from the 6th round (18%), and 4 undrafted QBs (12%) in the Super Bowl (counting repeat players).
-Only 3 out of these 17 consecutive Super Bowls have had starting QBs not drafted in the 1st round (18%).
Easier to understand numbers: Round drafted for QBs counting returning players (total not counting returning players).
[bold percentages based on the total number of QBs not counting returning players = 24]
1st round: 17 (13 without counting repeats) (50% /54%) 2nd Round: 3 (2) (9% / 8%) 3rd round: 3 (3) (9% / 13%) 4th round: 1 (1) (3% / 4%) 5th round: 0 6th round: 6 (3) (18% / 13%) Undrafted: 4 (2) (12% / 8%)
That is a total of 13 QBs drafted in the first round compared to 11 QBs drafted in any other round or undrafted without counting their repeat visits.
Ultimately this shows that overwhelmingly a 1st round QB has a statistically higher chance of playing the Super Bowl than any other QB drafted outside of the 1st round.
Edit:
Additional data added (1984 - '93):
XVIII - 1/22/84 Jim Plunkett, Los Angeles Raiders (1 - *1st overall) Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins (4)
XIX - 1/20/85 Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers (3) Dan Marino, Miami Dolphins (1)
XX - 1/26/86 Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears (1) Tony Eason, New England Patriots (1)
XXI - 1/25/87 Phil Simms, New York Giants (1) John Elway, Denver Broncos (1*)
XXII - 1/31/88 Doug Williams, Washington Redskins (1) John Elway, Denver Broncos (1*)
XXIII - 1/22/89 Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers (3) Boomer Esiason, Cincinnati Bengals (2)
XXIV - 1/28/90 Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers (3) John Elway, Denver Broncos (1*)
XXV - 1/27/91 Jeff Hostetler, New York Giants (3) Jim Kelly, Buffalo Bills (1)
XXVI - 1/26/92 Mark Rypien, Washington Redskins (6) Jim Kelly, Buffalo Bills (1)
XXVII - 1/31/93 Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys (1*) Jim Kelly, Buffalo Bills (1)
-5 times a 1st overall drafted QB started (3 different players) (25% / 15%) -13 1st round QBs out of 20 total (9 different) (65% / 45%). -1 2nd rounder (5%) -4 3rd rounders (2 different QBs) (20% / 10%) -1 4th rounder (5%) -0 5th rounder (0%) -1 6th rounder (5%)
Including previous data ('94 - Present):
-Total number of Super Bowls is 27 -Total number of starting QBs is 54 (35 different players)
1st overall- 14/9 (26% / 26%) 1st round- 30/22 (56% / 63%) 2nd round- 4/3 (7% / 9%) 3rd round- 7/5 (13% / 14%) 4th round- 2/2 (4% / 6%) 5th round- 0 6th round- 7/4 (13% / 11%) 7th+/und- 4/4 (7% / 11%)
What this means is that from 1984 - Present: A Super Bowl QB has been a 1st round draft pick 56% of the time, again overwhelmingly higher than any other round. If you do not count repeat players, it has been an even larger 63% of the time.
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ccardwell67 Senior Moderator
Posts : 356 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 42 Location : Indiana
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:59 pm | |
| all the more reason to give serious consideration to claussen and deal cassel if possible | |
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RustShack Giver of Life
Posts : 4463 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 35 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:28 pm | |
| Exactly. Plus the fact that this is likely the best QB for our system we will ever be able to get. You have to do it while you can.. this chance isn't coming back around. We wont find a QB as talented and polished as Clausen, already knowing our offense and spent the last three years under our OC. Its now or never. | |
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ccardwell67 Senior Moderator
Posts : 356 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 42 Location : Indiana
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:52 pm | |
| i just hope they have the balls to pull the trigger on this | |
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Touchdown Bowe Mod Lord
Posts : 1450 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 31 Location : KC
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:20 pm | |
| Ill jizz like a hose if we take Clausen...im serious...ill be cleanin the shit up for days...hell i might even have to repaint my walls it'll be so bad..then ill have to buy new cloths cause they'd all have brown stains on them | |
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RustShack Giver of Life
Posts : 4463 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 35 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:21 pm | |
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kcchiefs Mod Lord
Posts : 370 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:23 pm | |
| okay.. Its official.. We are watching the draft at YOUR house this year. | |
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Touchdown Bowe Mod Lord
Posts : 1450 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 31 Location : KC
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:37 pm | |
| Ill just aim at Codys house when we draft him..k? | |
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kcchiefs Mod Lord
Posts : 370 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:38 pm | |
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RustShack Giver of Life
Posts : 4463 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 35 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:39 pm | |
| Sweet I'll be there! | |
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OutlawChief All-Pro
Posts : 856 Join date : 2010-04-06 Age : 45 Location : Mansfield, Ohio
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:04 pm | |
| Numbers don't lie lol. We will find out in 10 days. GO CHIEFS!!!!! | |
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ccardwell67 Senior Moderator
Posts : 356 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 42 Location : Indiana
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:06 pm | |
| its gonna be a great draft for us cant wait to see how we are going to improve this team | |
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Lightning88 Amateur
Posts : 140 Join date : 2010-03-29
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:19 pm | |
| I'm still not sold on drafting Clausen unless we can't trade down. It took you till ten days left on the drat to even consider Clausen. What actually made me finally think about the whole deal is when I looked back to Cassel's behavior. Not even his play bc there were times he did the best he could with the time given and the most dropsie receivers EVER plus your number 1 out 4 games no official number 2 till chamber game 6 i think. What really got me to think about Claussen is the slump you saw in Cassel's shoulder when the Broncs and a few others got up on us big. He lost his fight and it showed he had given up. The QB is your offensive leader when yuor leader gives that whole side of the ball gives. Clausen's messed up in the head but he might just be messed up enough to lead us to the SuperBowl. I still like Berry at a later pick for the record though. | |
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ccardwell67 Senior Moderator
Posts : 356 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 42 Location : Indiana
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:26 pm | |
| good post lightning its gonna be a tough draft cause we have alot of talent to choose from when we pick in the first. hell even the second and third | |
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Lightning88 Amateur
Posts : 140 Join date : 2010-03-29
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:29 pm | |
| I know and we have two second. we have 3 of the top 50 picks
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ccardwell67 Senior Moderator
Posts : 356 Join date : 2010-03-25 Age : 42 Location : Indiana
| Subject: Re: Case for a first round QB Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:32 pm | |
| gonna be great cant wait. hopefully this draft get us on the road to prominence again | |
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