2013 KC Draft

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redross006 wrote:

Geno ain't gonna happen so give it up and move on.

I know it's not going to happen but it doesn't mean that I can dismiss the idea that they are fucking up to win now!

Chiefs09 wrote:

I love so many hating the moves KC is making right now. Its the same guys that loved every move Pioli made and we sucked the whole time under Pioli. So the moves we are making now will probably wind up being great.

Weve had a hell of an offseason with the exception of the Alex Smith trade and probably the outcome of this Albert situation.

It really doesnt matter what other moves we make. We screwed up again when it comes to the most important position on the team and its gonna hold us back.

I haven't hated any move yet, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Smith is just like Jackson, I wanted both... Just not with the compensation used.

RustShack wrote:

I haven't hated any move yet, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Smith is just like Jackson, I wanted both... Just not with the compensation used.

I didn't really care for the Smith move at 1st. He feels a need as a vet, but I would've preferred to give up a 3rd at most. You look at the Kolb and Cassell trade and a 2 is the compensation even though both are career backups. Still though, the idea they gave up what is essentially a 1 this year and a 2 next year is incomprehensible to me. I would've rather given up 3 - 1st round picks and a player to go up and get RG3 last year! This trade makes the RG3 trade look like the Skins knew what the hell they were doing.

BigRatt wrote:

RustShack wrote:

I haven't hated any move yet, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Smith is just like Jackson, I wanted both... Just not with the compensation used.

I didn't really care for the Smith move at 1st. He feels a need as a vet, but I would've preferred to give up a 3rd at most. You look at the Kolb and Cassell trade and a 2 is the compensation even though both are career backups. Still though, the idea they gave up what is essentially a 1 this year and a 2 next year is incomprehensible to me. I would've rather given up 3 - 1st round picks and a player to go up and get RG3 last year! This trade makes the RG3 trade look like the Skins knew what the hell they were doing.

Exactly. I wasnt against trading for Alex Smith. I said before the trade even happened if we sent a 4th for him i'd be perfectly fine with it..but we sent two high draft picks for him. Two picks that could have been used to fill holes at WR or OL or DE or ILB. My whole idea was to trade for Smith and take a guy in the 1st or 2nd round to groom behind him or even start..but thats not happening.

If Alex somehow wins us a playoff game, ill believe in him, but if we put the team on his shoulders like I think were going to, we'll be lucky to finish 8-8.

Geno Smith coming to KC for a visit. To bad it's in the interest of trading the pick.

Dee Milliner also coming for a visit.

Tryin like hell to trade out of that 1 slot

Chiefs sniffing around Geno Smith

March, 27, 2013
Mar 27

Andy Reid said he will do his due diligence before deciding on the No. 1 pick in the draft and he is doing it.

NFL Network reports the team will bring West Virginia quarterback Geno Smith and Alabama cornerback Dee Milliner in for visits. They went to the campuses of several other top prospects. None of this is a surprise. Reid said he would look at right to 10 prospects and Smith would be one of them.

The Smith visit will spark speculation that he is a favorite to be the No. 1 pick. The NFL Network report states Kansas City scouts are fascinated by him and think he can be a bigger Donovan McNabb. He, of course, was the No. 2 overall draft choice in Philadelphia in 1999. It was Reid’s first season there.

I don’t think the Chiefs are close to figuring out what they want to do. If Smith blows them away, he could be the pick. But right now I wouldn’t say he is the favorite. I still think it is Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel.

If Geno Smith was the choice, I wouldn’t have a big problem with it because the Chiefs don’t have huge pressing needs. So if they think they can get a great player, they should take it. Alex Smith was traded for to be the immediate starter and I think he will still be even if Geno Smith is taken. But Geno Smith could be stashed away. Remember, Kansas City general manager John Dorsey comes from Green Bay where that approach worked with Aaron Rodgers behind Brett Favre.

Still, I think Geno Smith would have to completely blow away the Chiefs for him to be the choice. Also, the team is interested in trading the pick. Talking up Geno Smith could be a way of drumming up interest.

In other AFC West news:

Former Oakland defensive back Michael Huff has agreed to a deal with the Baltimore Ravens. He replaces star safety Ed Reed. Huff is the second AFC West player the Ravens signed to rebuild their defense. Elvis Dumervil was signed earlier in the week.

Meanwhile, the Denver Post explains that Dumervil took less guaranteed money from the Ravens than what the Broncos were offering.

Trying to claim interest in most of the guys in the top 10 so a team balls up and trades with them. Dont think its gonna happen unless Philly, Arizona, or Buffalo pays bank to move up for Geno.

Touchdown Bowe wrote:

Trying to claim interest in most of the guys in the top 10 so a team balls up and trades with them. Dont think its gonna happen unless Philly, Arizona, or Buffalo pays bank to move up for Geno.

I agree!

We don't have many needs. It could still be Geno. I think trading down is what they want most though.

It looks like they are going to look to the draft for a starting LB. Who's going to be around in the 3rd that can fill that spot from day 1?

AJ Klien. LB isn't really as important as it used to be. Anymore good LB's have been traded for what seems like nothing. Unless you have a rare one, they are basically a dime in a dozen anymore.

Honestly if the Chiefs and Jags pass on Geno I could see him falling into the 20s. Buffalo picking up Kolb, Oakland picking up Flynn, Cardinals probably getting Palmer..its not working in Genos favor right now.

I was about to say no way he falls, but then again it was the Jags QB coach that said Gabbert was better than Geno(not sure if coaching changes have been made since?).

Its gotta be a sign unless one of these teams simply plans on drafting and keeping Geno on the bench to learn for a few years..but if they dont and Geno slides, maybe theres a red flag that the teams know of that we dont..

Kolb and Palmer could be short gaps for Geno.

Possibly. More likely Buffalo than Arizona if AZ lands Palmer though. They gave Drew Stanton a nice little contract this offseason and you know Palmer is gonna want starting money.

Touchdown Bowe wrote:

Possibly. More likely Buffalo than Arizona if AZ lands Palmer though. They gave Drew Stanton a nice little contract this offseason and you know Palmer is gonna want starting money.

So Flynn goes to the Raiders for multiple picks. Oakland is sticking a Cactus up Carson's ass for a late rounder. Their might be something about Geno that we don't know. I think you can rule out Oakland taking him after giving up multiple picks for Flynn. That leaves Jacksy, the Buffalo heifer, and the Cactus Patch as the remaining spots in the top 10 for him unless somebody comes up to get him.

Schefter is reporting the Chiefs and Bills are exchanging 1st's. Albert also didn't show up for work outs today. Wonder if the 2 are connected?

Left tackle Branden Albert's absence from the Kansas City Chiefs' voluntary offseason program may be another sign the team is moving to trade him.

New coach Andy Reid and his staff were at the program Monday. Albert was not, even though he signed his franchise tag tender last month. These programs are voluntary, but players are encouraged to participate.

The Chiefs are shopping Albert and they have had some talks with the Miami Dolphins, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. Schefter has reported the Chiefs want a second-round pick this year and a conditional pick next year in return. The Dolphins have two second-round picks in this month’s draft and they have a need for a left tackle.

The Chiefs could use the No.1 overall pick in the draft on Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel whether Albert is kept or not.

With most key players there, Albert could be staying away because he thinks he is going to be traded. Either way, it won’t make the team happy that Albert is not participating.

In other AFC West notes:

Kevin Weidl looks at the first-round needs Insider of each AFC West team.

Matt Williamson grades the free agency of every AFC team. Insider The Broncos and Chiefs did very well, but not so much for the Raiders and Chargers, according to Williamson.

In a video, ESPN’s Adam Schefter discusses West Virginia quarterback Geno Smith's visit to Kansas City Monday. I agree with Schefter in that I think the Chiefs are trying to drum up interest to deal their pick.

Giants receiver Domenik Hixon visited Carolina. He has visited the Raiders.

The Chiefs have cut backup linebacker Andy Studebaker.

San Diego quarterback Philip Rivers talks about the team’s offseason in a radio interview.

I'm pretty sure we didn't trade Albert to the Bills..

RustShack wrote:

I'm pretty sure we didn't trade Albert to the Bills..

Me to. It is kind of strange though that Albert is the only one not at the "tree outs!"

Star is cleared by 9 different heart doctors. Does he jump back up?