2013 KC Draft

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Today Reid said there are eight options, including Geno for the number one pick.

RustShack wrote:

Today Reid said there are eight options, including Geno for the number one pick.

Geno, Star, Joeckel, Fisher, Floyd, Milliner, Jordan, and Warmack probably. Out of those they are probably looking at 2 or 3 real hard.

Brandon is the big X-Factor. Today Reid was asked why Alex over Geno, and he said Geno is still an option.

RustShack wrote:

Brandon is the big X-Factor. Today Reid was asked why Alex over Geno, and he said Geno is still an option.

Ya! If they trade him I guess we know what they're doing. I'm reading that there is a couple of options on the table to trade the pick. It will be interesting to see what shakes out.

I have read, via twitter, that the Chiefs are liking Star Lotulelei A LOT!

Wont believe anything until they officially announce it. Of course theyre gonna like several guys alot..they have the top pick in the draft.

Lotulelei Works Out At Utah's Pro Day

Star Lotulelei works out at Utah's pro day less than a month after an abnomal test result forced him to miss the NFL scouting combine.Tags: Star Lotulelei, Utah, NFL Draft

Star Lotulelei, one of the elite prospects of the 2013 NFL draft, participated in Utah's pro day Wednesday, less than one month after an abnormal test result prevented the defensive tackle from working out at the league scouting combine.

He tested well across the board Wednesday, a source told ESPN's Joe Schad. The 6-foot-2, 311-pound Lotulelei unofficially recorded a 30-inch vertical leap, registered 38 reps of 225 pounds in the bench press and clocked a 4.65 time in the shuttle run, the source said.

Lotulelei was not allowed to work out at the combine after an echocardiogram revealed he had a heart condition that required further testing.

He was discovered to have an abnormally low ejection fraction, as the left ventricle of his heart was pumping at only 44 percent efficiency, sources said. The normal range is between 55-70 percent efficiency.

But after Wednesday's workout, Lotulelei told reporters he was medically cleared a week after the combine and speculated the initial abnormality may have been caused by a virus.

"Even when I got it tested a week after [in Salt Lake City], it was showing improvement," Lotulelei told reporters, according to the Salt Lake Tribune. "Hopefully in the drills, I showed them I can move well for a big guy."

He said he will undergo more testing by NFL medical personnel on April 5-6 in Indianapolis.

Lotulelei is the No. 6 overall player ranked by Scouts, Inc. and has been tabbed as the top overall pick in ESPN draft expert Todd McShay's latest mock draft.

Chiefs meeting with Jarvis Jones. Some think Jones will be better than Von Miller. Makes me wonder whether or not they might consider trading Hali for a shit load of picks and select his replacement with that contract.

BigRatt wrote:

Chiefs meeting with Jarvis Jones. Some think Jones will be better than Von Miller. Makes me wonder whether or not they might consider trading Hali for a shit load of picks and select his replacement with that contract.

Jarvis Jones will be either a late 1st or early 2nd..he's got that spinal condition that really limits players careers.

Touchdown Bowe wrote:

BigRatt wrote:

Chiefs meeting with Jarvis Jones. Some think Jones will be better than Von Miller. Makes me wonder whether or not they might consider trading Hali for a shit load of picks and select his replacement with that contract.

Jarvis Jones will be either a late 1st or early 2nd..he's got that spinal condition that really limits players careers.

I didn't know how far he would fall. Forgot about the condition!

If Star checks out he has to be in serious consideration. We have really been focusing on the Pass Rushers, DL, and OT's. Really hope to keep Albert and draft defense!

If Geno isn't the pick, that is of course.

It just pisses me off so much that going into this offseason we had 2 quality starting tackles. Something is up with Winston apparently because he remains unsigned..but the fact were trying to dump Albert also is just baffling.

This team is in "win now" mode..yet we want to trade our best offensive lineman by far to acquire picks that we ended up losing for Alex Smiths sorry ass. This Alex Smith trade is seriously going to f*$& this franchise in the ass for years to come.

Touchdown Bowe wrote:

It just pisses me off so much that going into this offseason we had 2 quality starting tackles. Something is up with Winston apparently because he remains unsigned..but the fact were trying to dump Albert also is just baffling.

This team is in "win now" mode..yet we want to trade our best offensive lineman by far to acquire picks that we ended up losing for Alex Smiths sorry ass. This Alex Smith trade is seriously going to f*$& this franchise in the ass for years to come.

Relax, dude..It isn't even near the NFL draft yet and already you are jumping off the cliff..

I tend to take the wait and see approach..I like to give guys the benefit of the doubt when they come in..At least let him have 1 snap before making statements like that..

KCJay wrote:

Touchdown Bowe wrote:

It just pisses me off so much that going into this offseason we had 2 quality starting tackles. Something is up with Winston apparently because he remains unsigned..but the fact were trying to dump Albert also is just baffling.

This team is in "win now" mode..yet we want to trade our best offensive lineman by far to acquire picks that we ended up losing for Alex Smiths sorry ass. This Alex Smith trade is seriously going to f*$& this franchise in the ass for years to come.

Relax, dude..It isn't even near the NFL draft yet and already you are jumping off the cliff..

I tend to take the wait and see approach..I like to give guys the benefit of the doubt when they come in..At least let him have 1 snap before making statements like that..

I would take the wait and see approach much like I did with Matt Cassel because Cassel was younger and had 1 year of experience..but Alex Smith has been around for what..7 or 8 years? We know EXACTLY what were getting with this guy. A short yardage dink and dunk passer with a mediocre arm, a lacking deep ball, and some leadership. Thats it. I would have rather taken a shot in the dark with Tyler Wilson with that 2nd pick than trade it for Alex Smith.

So, you would take a shot in the dark...What if that shot in the dark doesn't pan out? Then what?

We will be still a team full of talent and no NFL QB to run the offense..

Say what you want about Alex Smith, but he can run an NFL offense and does not turn the ball over..

KCJay wrote:

So, you would take a shot in the dark...What if that shot in the dark doesn't pan out? Then what?

We will be still a team full of talent and no NFL QB to run the offense..

Say what you want about Alex Smith, but he can run an NFL offense and does not turn the ball over..

I don't really have the problems trading for Smith that I did before, but they gave up to fucking much for what Alex is. At least he's better than Cassell and actually has the accuracy to hit a WR in stride. I don't really mind the 2 this year but a 2 next year is a different story. I looked at an article showing the history of 2nd round picks and it's not really as good as I thought it would be. A lot of guys are selected in the 2nd that don't work out or end up as role players. They still should've drafted Geno to put behind Smith is what the appropriate strategy should've been. 1st 2 picks in the draft solve the short term and long term problems at QB. I get that Andy likes Smith ability to check off at the line and run his West Coast offense. What I don't get, is how an NFL coach and GM can settle for a QB with such a low ceiling. It just blows my fucking mind especially in a day and age when coaches know that the NFL is a glorified flag football league predicated on throwing the ball.

I just believe that Andy Reid knows better than we do what is better for Andy Reids offense... and if he says that it is Alex Smith and Chase Daniels then I say ok. None of the experts liked Geno until his proday when he was in shorts throwing scripted passes to WR's that he has been throwing to for all of his collegiate career. You know who else wowwed the experts with their pro days??????? Alex Smith and Jamarcus Russell.... lets give these guys a chance succeed before deeming them failures.

[quote="redross006"]I just believe that Andy Reid knows better than we do what is better for Andy Reids offense... and if he says that it is Alex Smith and Chase Daniels then I say ok. None of the experts liked Geno until his proday when he was in shorts throwing scripted passes to WR's that he has been throwing to for all of his collegiate career. You know who else wowwed the experts with their pro days??????? Alex Smith and Jamarcus Russell.... lets give these guys a chance succeed before deeming them failures

1st of all you will see that some of us in here have been advocating for G. Smith for the last 2 or 3 months. What he did at his Pro Day is pretty much what he did all his college career which is completing a shit load of passes, throwing on the run, going against the grain, etc. His Pro Day numbers match up with his college stats and film. The so called experts are now on board which shows you the experts really aren't experts. Mayock said that Geno was a late round talent until his Pro Day. Now all of sudden he's rated top 10 and Mayock also now has 3 QB's going in the 1st round. I wish I could get paid for running my fucking mouth without any consequences!

KCJay wrote:

So, you would take a shot in the dark...What if that shot in the dark doesn't pan out? Then what?

We will be still a team full of talent and no NFL QB to run the offense..

Say what you want about Alex Smith, but he can run an NFL offense and does not turn the ball over..

You keep taking shots until one pans out. Then you build around him for 10-15 years.

Touchdown Bowe wrote:

KCJay wrote:

So, you would take a shot in the dark...What if that shot in the dark doesn't pan out? Then what?

We will be still a team full of talent and no NFL QB to run the offense..

Say what you want about Alex Smith, but he can run an NFL offense and does not turn the ball over..

You keep taking shots until one pans out. Then you build around him for 10-15 years.

Your preaching to the choir! This is KC, we don't draft QB prospects here because we want to win now and not take the chance of wasting a pick. We will probably go another 25 before we take a 1st round QB!

Geno ain't gonna happen so give it up and move on.

I love so many hating the moves KC is making right now. Its the same guys that loved every move Pioli made and we sucked the whole time under Pioli. So the moves we are making now will probably wind up being great.

Chiefs09 wrote:

I love so many hating the moves KC is making right now. Its the same guys that loved every move Pioli made and we sucked the whole time under Pioli. So the moves we are making now will probably wind up being great.

Like the moves that you said wouldn't happen? Bowe, Albert, Colquit, restructure T-Jax. It has nothing to do with Pioli, b/c Pioli has said what he would've done which is release Albert to draft Jeockel. He said Bowe didn't deserve top 5 money so that probably means Bowe would've walked under Pioli. We now know who was cheap and it wasn't Hunt! I'm glad he's gone! So far I really like what they have done in FA except for the Smith trade. He will be ok and is definitely better than Cassell. I just don't think he gives our offense that over the top ceiling to make some racket, plus they overpaid for him through the nose.